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Tuesday, April 08, 2008
Fresh old documents
Wednesday, February 06, 2008
Piano Questions 101
We have a Sanborn Insurance map from around 1900 that shows the business at 64 Park St. in SF.
We are following some leads and asking questions of some professionals regarding the business and its possible affiliation with Winkler Piano Co. in Trenton, NJ. We'll let you know what we come up with.
Philip was listed on the 1900 census as a plumber along with his brother Frederic. It makes one wonder what is the deciding factor is in choosing a profession in some cases.
I am also researching the area in SF that the Winklers lived. From what I've been told, construction records were lost in the 1906 earthquake and they are relying on water company records to determine the construction date of a home. I believe the water for SF was piped from San Mateo which makes sense that those records survived.
Frederick Winkler's house is listed as being built in 1908. I am trying to determine if this is the original house or a rebuild as Frederick lived there prior to his marriage to Gazella Wilson somewhere around 1904-1906. I know that all houses didn't have running water back then and just because water was hooked up in 1908, doesn't mean that is when the house was built. I will compare new and old pictures of addresses if and when I get them.
We'll let you know what we come up with.
Tuesday, January 22, 2008
Interesting finds and learning to search

I was browsing through SF City Directories for O'Reilly, Wilson, Winkler, Watson, et al. I come across a listing for Frederick Winkler in the 1907 Directory living on College Ave. Since he passed in November of 1907, my assumption is that the book is a little behind just as our current telephone books are.
They also didn't list spouses in the 1907 Directory. So, I continue looking and find Gazella, his widow listed in the 1911 Directory on College Ave.
Suddenly, a light goes on in my head, I look at the 1910 Census where we found Gazella living with she and Frederick's daughter Freda, along with some people named Vincent J. and Ella Sognara listed as head of household and wife. Zella is listed as daughter and Freda as grand daughter. They're at the same address on College Ave.
Move forward to the 1918 directory and Gazella is now living there with her husband Charles Watson.
So, for all you genealogists among us, watch those addresses and compare them from source to source. If they match from a source you know to be accurate, you've more than likely got the right family.
Also, that Sognara thing has had us confused for a while since we have no idea where the name came from. In Vincent J.'s obit, he is listed as John V. Wilson, Ella's lists her as Sarah Ellen both of them with the last name of Wilson. Vincent's parents were from Austria and Slovenia and he was born in Austria. Sognara certainly isn't a german name.
Previous censuses show their name as Wilson. Vincent and Ella had a son that has been listed as Vincent Jr. and the Vincent name has been carried on two more generations as far as I can tell. The only reason I can see for the name change is either Sognara is Vincent's real last name and he changed it when he got to the USA or it was a census taker mistake. Censuses are well known for errors.
Try not to get frustrated when the information doesn't seem quite right or you can't find someone. Try searching under variant spellings and sometimes first names, just initials, or partial names. Don't forget the abbreviations for names, especially for men's names, that was quite common. Jos. for Joseph, Wm. for William, etc. Women often used variants of their names too. A Google search for 'variation of ____' sometimes adding the year, might give you some options. Another tool could be baby name books or websites. Least, but not last, try the spelling the way it would have been spelled in their native country. Juan=John type thing. Variations sometimes aren't as obvious as you would think
Sunday, March 04, 2007
Chinese New Year

It all started with a phone call to my newly-found Ambrose cousin, Andrea. She's on the same generation as I am, descended from Frank Ambrose by way of his son, William- her grandfather. I wanted to meet her and as it turns out, she was already planning a trip down here (from the Sacramento area) to go to the Chinese New Year parade with her family. Though I made the phone call, she wanted to invite us to go along for a 'family outing'.
Well, of course we'd go!
(more soon)
Saturday, December 02, 2006
Caroline Ann Rohrbach
On her son, Phillip's death certificate, her last name was spelled Roebuck. I'm adding this in case that particular error was perpetuated anywhere else.
She married Henry Edward Winkler around 1871 and began a family while still in New York. The order of their birth and places in family records seemed to indicate she traveled back and forth between the two coasts. Perhaps this is error, or perhaps she still had strong family ties back east that we haven't found yet. Or both.
Caroline passed four years after her husband in San Francisco on August 9, 1918. Ann Geglin, who lived around the corner at 257 Richland Ave, was the informant. I believe this was her daughter, Ann.
The first US Census we found of theirs was from 1880.
City of San Francisco, County of San Francisco, State of California
Page 33, Supervisor district 1, taken on the Ninth of June
The next available census was from 1900. This census of San Francisco was performed on the 10th of June. Sheet number 13, beginning on line 81... I'll quote what's changed from 20 years before.Park Street, beginning on line 41
WINKLER, Edward
White male age 34, married, a Cabinet Maker born in Saxony, mother and father from Saxony. They left of the "Germany" part, but perhaps it was more understood back then.
" Caroline -wife
White female age 25, married, occupation Housekeeping. She was born in N.Y. and her parents were both from Baden. They left off the "Germany" here too.
" Phillip -son
White male age 8, single. He had whooping cough that year, attended school that year, was born in N.Y., father born in Saxony, mother born in N.Y.
" Annie -daughter
White female age 5, single, attended school that year, was born in N.Y., father born in Saxony, mother born in N.Y.
" Eddie -son
White male age 4, single, was born in N.Y., father born in Saxony, mother born in N.Y.
" Willie -son
White male age 2, single, was born in California, father born in Saxony, mother born in N.Y.
and Al Soon, a chinese male age 20, single, and employed as a servant. He could not read or write, he and his parents were born in China.
64 East Park Street
WINKLER, Henry E -HeadHessen, where Henry was from, is in the area of Frankfurt, Germany. Baden, where Caroline's parents are from, is just South, near Stuttgart. I'm still researching how these borders have changed over the years.
..born September 1843, age 56, married 28 years. Born in Germany, both parents born in Germany. Came to the US in 1864, has been here 31 years and was naturalized. Here he is listed as a Piano Maker, he can read, write, and speak English. He owns the home with a mortgage.
"Caroline -wife
born December 1854, age 45, married 28 years. Has had 10 children, 10 are living. Here it says she was born in New York and her parents were both from Germany.
"Phillip -son
born October 1872, age 27 and single. Here he is the only one listed as born in New York. He worked as a plumber and could read, write, and speak English.
"Edward -son
born September 1876, age 23 and single. He worked as a (Crofter? Crafter? something like that) was unemployed for 2 months last year, and could read, write, and speak English.
"William -son
born June 1878, age 21 and single. He worked as a peddler and could read, write, and speak English.
"Frederick -son
born June 1880, age 19 and single. He worked as a plumber and could read, write, and speak English.
"Florence -daughter
born February 1883, age 17 and single. She was 'at home' and could read, write, and speak English.
"Frank -son
born April 1888, age 12 and single. He was at school for 10 months last year and could read, write, and speak English.
"Louisa -daughter
born August 1890, age 9 and single. She was at school for 10 months last year. Not specified about reading and writing...
"George -son
born January 1892, age 8 and single. He was at school for 10 months last year. Not specified about reading and writing...
"Emilia -daughter
born July of 1893, age 6 and single.
Saturday, November 25, 2006
Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery
The only family we knew until recently were from the Howard family, children born in San Francisco to Thomas and Mary who came from Ireland. Now we know that some of the Brown/ Krauser/ Hennessy clan are here too! The list keeps growing.
WILLIAM HOWARD was born in 1877 on the 13th of October. He died November 1937 in San Francisco, buried in Section R1, row 10, grave 62 at Holy Cross.
THOMAS F. HOWARD who was born on July 3, 1874 died on Christmas Eve 1943. He was buried at Holy Cross, sharing a grave with his brother.
(Nov. 24, 2006) This grave is difficult to find. Either the marker has sank into the ground or there wasn't one to begin with. This section is on a rolling hill with flat markers all around. The person in the office graciously gave me a list of surrounding graves so I could tell where it was supposed to be, but this was after I had already done a lot of searching and it was getting dark. The people from grave 56 to 64 are as follows: Ayala, McGinnis, Witacki, Cardinal, Mason, Donnelly, (Howard), True, Bancroft. As I understood the map, if you stand on Avenue E, facing the hills behind the cemetery with the large mausoleum to your left and a little behind you, you are looking at the rows of R1 before you. There are some "mini-graves" at the right, but once you get to the standard size graves, begin counting the rows to 10. Still on Avenue E, right? Now, from row 10 begin walking toward the little tree line dividing the two R sections. You may have to scuff the markers a bit because of lawn clippings and soil runoff. Count as you go and look for the names above.
(AUGUST 26, 2007) There is now a concrete marker on their grave.
ALICE HOWARD died August 24, 1874 at the age of three. She was originally buried at Mount Calvary Cemetery in San Francisco, with a new marker made in December of 1903.
MAURICE HOWARD born June 27, 1879, died at grammar school age when he was kicked by a race horse at the Cooper Stables, where his father worked. He is supposed to be buried near his sister Alice.
The burial information for Alice and Maurice in family records (Dormetory 3, Station 71, Area 27, Grave 78) is most likely irrelevant now because in the early 1940's the 38,000 people who were buried at Calvary were dug up and moved to a special section of Holy Cross, which did not exist at all until 1887. What you are looking at is... a mass grave... this patch of lawn is where they all are.

ALSO in section R1 just a few more rows away from the Howards:
BROWN, Gertrude V. born November 2, 1895, died August 15, 1935 (Row 17, Grave 25)
BROWN, Josephine R. born February 26, 1872, died December 15, 1940 (same grave)
Over in section 5, way over by the northern tree line, is
HENNESSY, Alfred J. born June 4, 1872 and died May 31, 1961. It was intended to be shared with his wife Anna Cecelia Brown, however her sister, Juanita, predeceased her and she evidently gave permission for her sister to be buried there. Anna is buried by herself near their 'country home' in the Manton Cemetery in Tehama County, California.
BROWN, Juanita M born March 4, 1900 and died March 26, 1979. Daughter of George Brown and Josephine Krauser.
Shown at right is the visual line up to find their grave. This one is easy.
Friday, November 24, 2006
Italian Cemetery


You can now get there by BART, the Colma station is just a block away from F Street.
It's no trouble to drive, but you may have to make a U-turn to get to F where it curls up a slope because of the divided road.
If you go in the 2nd entrance, called Columbo Avenue, and go almost all the way down to the end, on the right, stand on the number 57 and look to your left to see the Ambrose's white marble cross on a pedestal.
Block 58, lot 67 is owned by G. B. Ambrose. Shown below are details from the memorial.

Loose translation: To the Memory of our parents (Ancestors) Maria Ambrose, born in Verbicaro, Province of Cosenza, Italy. Died in San Francisco on May 9, 1912 at the age of 65. Giovanni B. Ambrose, born in Verbicaro, Province of Cosenza, Italy. Died in San Francisco on March 10, 1915 at the age of 68. Dear Ancestors, Rest in Peace...Alla Memoria Deinostri genitoriMARIA AMBROSENata a VerbicaroProvencia di Cosenza ItaliaMorta in S.F. il 9 maggio 1912all eta di anni 65* * *GIOVANNI B. AMBROSENata a VerbicaroProvencia di Cosenza ItaliaMorta in S.F. il 10 marzo 1915all eta di anni 68Cari genitoriR.I.P.


Golden Gate National Cemetery
The address is 1300 Sneath Lane, San Bruno, CA 94066
Previously, the only part of our clan we knew resting there was :
GEORGE WINKLER (son of Henry and Caroline, brother of Phillip, etc.)
Born January 28, 1892, died May 3, 1953
Was a wagoner in the Wagon Supply Company during World War I.
63rd Infantry 11th Division (24109 is another associated number)


I found him some time ago through http://www.interment.net/
Many beautiful photos of this cemetery are available at Indospectrum.com
We have since found out (in 2007) that we have more "family" here. Family relationships are yet to come.
Howard, Robert James, (son of Thomas Howard and Mary Ellen Waters) b. 09/17/1882, d. 11/08/1951, CHAUFFEUR 1ST CL SQ C AIR SVC FLYING SCH ROCKWELL FLD CALIF, Plot: R 3345, bur. 11/15/1951, *
Heglin, Philip B, b. 12/28/1901, d. 03/13/1993, S 2 USN, Plot: CA 976, bur. 03/18/1993, and
Heglin, Florence L, b. 12/17/1903, d. 05/30/1984, Plot: CA 976, bur. 06/01/1984,
Heglin, Harry Monroe, b. 01/04/1896, d. 03/20/1958, PFC USMC, Plot: T 4797, bur. 03/24/1958,
Heglin, Ray , b. 04/20/1899, d. 09/26/1977, PVT USA, Plot: T 4798, bur. 09/29/1977,
Heglin, Margaret , b. 05/11/1905, d. 08/20/1988, Plot: T 4798, bur. 08/24/1988,
Saturday, November 04, 2006
Grampa Frische
He was born in Germany on the 4th of November, 1859, according to the California Death Index. His mother's maiden name was Husing. Henry's wife, Minnie Ehlers was born August 4, 1865 in California. In the 1910 census they lived in San Francisco, California.
Their children are as follows;
Henry W F Frische, born 11 June 1890 in California. He was summoned to World War I. He is found a veteran in the 1920 census with a wife, Clara Camille Liebscher, who was born 30 September 1895. They are in the 1930 census also, with children.
William Charles Frische, born 16 Feb 1892 in California. He, too, was summoned to the war, but is in the 1920 census as a veteran with his wife (Amelia) and daughters. In the 1930 census he had a different wife. He died July 7, 1973 in San Francisco.
Henry died in Napa county January 7, 1958. Clara died on 19 March 1996 in Mendocino county, Ca.
Henry Sr. died at the age of 86 in San Francisco on January 7, 1946. Minne also died in SF, on July 10, 1951.
All this was learned in March of 2007.
Wednesday, September 06, 2006
Henry E Winkler
To the best of my knowledge, their children are as follows:
- Phillip, born in New York on the 10th of October 1872 (my great grandfather)
- Ann, born in New York on the 18th of August, 1874
- Edward, born October 15, 1877 in San Francisco. Died in Richmond, CA July 10, 1929, buried in Colma
- William, born in New York on the 19th of June, 1878. Died February 24, 1908 in San Francisco, Buried in Colma.
- Fredrick, born on the 18th of July, 1880 in San Francisco. Also died in San Francisco, November 29, 1907
- Florence, born the 21st of February, 1883
- Frank, born the 2nd of April, 1888
- Louise, born the 11th of August, 1889 (possibly 1890) Running on the asumption she married a Mr. Fields, died in San Francisco September 28, 1928 and was buried in Colma.
- George, born the 28th of January 1892, died May 3, 1953
- Amelia, born the 5th of July 1893
Henry and his sons had a carpentry shop in San Francisco and even built and serviced pianos. I have two remnants of work order / invoices from Winkler Brothers Pianos which was located at one time at 64 East Park Street in District 9 of the City.
We haven't been able to prove any link between this and the Winkler Pianos of the same vintage in New Jersey. It is quite a coincidence, though, seeing as Henry probably didn't travel alone and he did spend some time in New York, close enough to Jersey.
Henry and Caroline lived just a few blocks away from the shop, at 366 Park, since perhaps 1885. Phillip had a house at 23 Highland Ave, later at 364 Park. The neighborhood is still known as Holly Park.
On the 30th of June 1914, Henry passed away, leaving his devoted wife and the business in the hands of his sons.
Henry had previously purchased a large family burial plot in Colma, CA (where San Francisco goes to final rest) at Olivet Memorial Park, and was buried there. He gave others outside of the "Winkler" family his permission to be buried there, also, and we are still trying to determine their relationship. Some predeceased him. The 3 foot granite headstone marking it only reads "Winkler", no other names or dates ever made it on there. I am hoping to change that.
Friday, August 18, 2006
Amelia Winkler

The child of Henry Winkler and Caroline Rohrbach, Amelia was born in San Francisco on July 5, 1893.
She married William C Frische, son of German-born Henry Frische and Californian Minnie around 1911 or 1912.
Amelia and William had a son, William H. Frische, born on May 1, 1913. According to the Frische family, he fell down the basement stairs at the age of two (August 1, 1915), and is buried with his grandparents in Colma, CA. This little boy ninety years later helped me to find his mother.
Edith Frische was born June 15, 1916 I'm pretty sure. She was three in the 1920 census. They had Loraine Louise Frische on January 23, 1921.
Some time after that and before the next census Amelia and William divorced. In 1930 she was boarding with another family with the two girls and he was married to another woman.
I don't know for sure when Amelia died. She probably remarried though it isn't likely she had any more children. [SCRATCH THAT! She married a Mr. Johnson and died in San Mateo county on April 14, 1982 at the age of 88. sorry... how long was i sitting on that fact?]
Her daughter, Lorainne either kept her maiden name or never married, she passed away in 2000. We aren't sure about Edith. She may have married a Trabucco or Dressler...
IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS FAMILY LINE, PLEASE CONTACT US!!!
[am now in contact with one of the Frische family as of 2009!!!]
Wednesday, July 19, 2006
the Howard children
Note: There is no information on the children Mary bore who did not live (according to the 1900 census she had 10)
Catherine Ambrose maiden name Catherine Agnes Howard, born June 17, 1876 at San Francisco, California. Baptized at Old St. Mary’s Catholic Church.*********************************************
Her mother’s name Mary Howard (Maiden name Mary Ellen Waters) born in sligo, Ireland. Died at age 80. had broken her hip, pneumonia resulted. Buried in Cooper plot at Cypress Lawn in spring of 1924 about April.
Father:
Thomas Howard died at 60 years. Native of Limerick, Ireland. Burried Jan. 25th 1918 Grave belonging to Cooper family, both buried in same plot.
Brothers:
Thomas F. Howard born 1874 July 3 died 1943 [1942 crossed out] Christmas Eve - burried Holy Cross New Section. Born in S.F. - James Reily Co. have records of correct date.
William Howard born 1877 on Oct 13 died Nov 1937 in S.F. buried at Holy Cross. Tom is buried in same grave.
Maurice Howard, born June 27, 1879 died at grammer school age. Kicked (by a race horse) at Cooper Stables. Burried at Holy Cross near sister Alice.
Robert James Emitt Howard, born 1882 Sept 17 San Francisco. Died at Vet. Hospital Oct 8 1951 Yontville. Burried at National Cemetery, San Bruno, Calif.
Sister:
Alice Howard died Aug. 24, 1874 at age of three. Buried at Mount Calvary Cemeteries (Holy Cross. Domertory 3, Station 71, Area 27, Grave 78 old section how of holy Cross. New grave marking made December 2, 1903 at offices of Holy Cross Cemetery.
Furthermore, I faxed this information to Holy Cross to confirm and get a map of the premises. Without their $30 fee for “Genealogical Research”, they were able to locate records only for Thomas Frank Howard and William H Howard. The other records are not in a computer database.
Thomas:
Interment No. 141998 Volume VIII – D- R, S- 10, Grave 62
Date of Death 12/24/43 - age 71y 5m 15d - date of interment 12/27/43
Parish: Star of the Sea – Place of Death: 423 Clement St.
Place of BIRTH: San Francisco
Undertaker: Reilly – Physician: J. J. Kingston
Cause of Death: Coronary sclerosis – B of M No: 9586
Name of Plot Owner: Robert J Howard – Address: 800 Bush St.
Date Purchased 1/27/39 – Deed ser. No. B-33342 P.C. –
Size of plot : 3x8William:
Interment No. 125973 – Vol. VII – D- R, S- 10, Grave 62
No date of death, no age, Date of Interment: 1/23/39
Place of death: San Francisco Hospital
No birthplace, no undertaker or physician.
Name of Plot Owner: Robert J Howard – Address: 800 Bush St.
Date Purchased 1/27/39 – Deed ser. No. B-33342 P.C. – Size of plot : 3x8
See the posting on Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery.
Tuesday, April 18, 2006
1906 Earthquake in San Francisco
The Winkler and Joos families lived in the Southern part of the City, where there was "less" fire damage. No records have been found yet as to how their homes and belongings were affected by the tremors.
The Ambrose families, however, living North on Greenwich, were forced to live in tents at the Presidio for a time before being herded like cattle on a boat and brought North to Marin County. The Northern part of the city and downtown are in most of the pictures you've seen over the years.
Actual facts and details of the Seismic Event are found on the map of the damages, and more.
Kites in the air...
Friday, March 24, 2006
Frank M Ambrose

Frank grew and married a California born girl named Annie. Her last name was said to be Zappieten, but the only surname like that we've found is Zappetini. They had two daughters together. Marguerita was born in July of 1893 and Gertrude was born, according to family records, in December of 1896. Some sources say she and Annie died during the childbirth. A document written by Frank many years later says his first wife died September 22 of 1898 and Gertie died in 1897. No mention of where they were buried. If they were buried in town, it will be very difficult to find any records of them. They lived, at least for a time, at 1220 Powell Street / Broadway. This is from an 1895 San Francisco city directory, page 194.
In the 1900 census it shows Frank had returned to live with his parents after the death of his wife and brought his daughter, Marguerita with him.
The picture below, cropped from a larger photo you'll see on Rose's page, was taken around 1903 with a new love, Catherine Agnes Howard. We're uncertain if they were married yet in this photo. (They married in San Francisco on February 11, 1903)

Just after their marriage, Frank began to show great dedication to working men's societies. The Woodmen of the World, King Solomon's Lodge of Freemasons, California Bodies (Scottish Rite), Ancient Egyptian order Sciots of the San Rafael Pyramid, Islam Temple (Shriners), Shrine Club of Marin and the Marin County Nobles Club to name a few. He was initiated as a Mason in October of 1904, passed on January 16 of 1905, and raised again in February of the same year. We have many reciepts of dues paid and identification cards from 1904 through the 1930's, and I'm sure these various organizations weren't all he participated in.
Frank and Catherine had only one daughter together (Alice) while living in San Francisco, after April 18, 1906, everything changed. The damages from the Earthquake and fires forced the Ambrose family into a camp of tents at the Presedio, and then to be herded onto a ferryboat like cattle bound for Marin County. They took the train to what was little more than a logging town, known as Larkspur.
While establishing their roots in a new town, Frank continued to be as active as he could in the Masonic society and his workers' union. He helped Larkspur organize their first Volunteer Fire Department, which began with one piece of equipment and no fire hose. He rented part of his paint store to the city for their meetings, became the second elected town Marshal, Constable, tax collector, and Fire Chief... "In those days everything was thrown in together." his daughter Alice was quoted to say in the book Larkspur: Past and Present.
With some of the town dignitaries... Can you spot him? Make sure you look at the Marin County Firefighters post, too!
The house at 11 Sycamore Avenue began as a small Victorian cottage built by Frank for his family around 1910. They outgrew it quickly it seems, and had to move to Locust Avenue, according to the Larkspur Historical Society book.

The Larkspur house they spent the most time in was at number 435 Magnolia Ave. This much larger house is right across the street from the City Hall and Fire Department- very convenient.
In the mid-1930's Frank and Catherine decided to move to Petaluma, and a 1942 letter home from their son, William, has their address at #3 -box 17 Sunny Slope Avenue.
Frank passed away in Santa Rosa (probably the nearest hospital) in 1945. He is buried at Olivet Memorial Park in Colma. After some hesitation, he was buried with his masonic ring and cap.