tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-359286022024-03-12T18:57:34.486-07:00More Familyology MusingsThe joy's in the journey of preserving our past while it's still in the present... Come read about our family trees and how we research and preserve them!The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.comBlogger175125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-17839688006790149212020-10-28T19:02:00.010-07:002020-10-28T19:37:49.152-07:00Green Valley Cemetery<div style="text-align: left;">Tucked at the North side of Cameron Park, California where Bass Lake Road meets Green Valley Road, is the fairly new <a href="https://www.greenvalleymortuary.com/" target="_blank">Green Valley Mortuary and Cemetery</a>. Their phone number is (530) 677-7171 and the official address is <span itemprop="streetAddress">3004 Alexandrite Drive </span><span itemprop="addressLocality">Rescue</span>, <span itemprop="addressRegion">CA</span> <span itemprop="postalCode">95672</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span itemprop="postalCode"> </span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span itemprop="postalCode">We're starting to have family brought here. </span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span itemprop="postalCode"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span itemprop="postalCode"><span style="font-size: normal;"><span style="font-size: large;"><b>Ronald E. Winkler</b></span> <span style="font-size: normal;">was born August 4, 1938 in San Francisco, CA. DOD October 18, 2019 in Okanogan County, WA. His semi-permanent address now is in section B 1 (right on the edge of the Veteran's section), row PP, grave #5. </span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span itemprop="postalCode"><span style="font-size: normal;"><span style="font-size: normal;"> </span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span itemprop="postalCode"><span style="font-size: normal;"><span style="font-size: normal;">His online memorial can be <a href="https://everloved.com/life-of/ronald-winkler/" target="_blank">viewed here</a>. </span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span itemprop="postalCode"><span style="font-size: normal;"><span style="font-size: normal;"><br /></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span itemprop="postalCode"><span style="font-size: normal;"><span style="font-size: normal;">This young lady is seated at the head of the grave. No marker yet at the time of this visit.<br /></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><p><span style="font-size: normal;"><span style="font-size: normal;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIxkySlROgX3Efc8E7K3blL8dntGG8DuFAfl5_EKKUVrFwjfJTW7XTx4UIr1OpGxVZv1g3dAWNgV4VemN6ubn19JG0-5r8zfJz0y_Ujzqrcs30bFxd2elLSR-s97gmisfTUNbo/s2048/IMG_6916.JPG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIxkySlROgX3Efc8E7K3blL8dntGG8DuFAfl5_EKKUVrFwjfJTW7XTx4UIr1OpGxVZv1g3dAWNgV4VemN6ubn19JG0-5r8zfJz0y_Ujzqrcs30bFxd2elLSR-s97gmisfTUNbo/s320/IMG_6916.JPG" width="320" /></a></span></span></p></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: normal;"><span style="font-size: normal;">The view from the flagpole area shown below.</span></span></div><span style="font-size: normal;"><span style="font-size: normal;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcLGt2kMy1a9AacEwF2PkqK82c0an1YfmRgmrV0yAXOxDGz0fPRWPH45-HrKrI-c9Qfl6T5FtQzwTz_w6FWvR2haBRth5nxAelHEbc6n7UkAbo5U3t3bfgLOetZSTbf6Tp_ip7/s2048/IMG_6913.JPG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2048" data-original-width="1536" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcLGt2kMy1a9AacEwF2PkqK82c0an1YfmRgmrV0yAXOxDGz0fPRWPH45-HrKrI-c9Qfl6T5FtQzwTz_w6FWvR2haBRth5nxAelHEbc6n7UkAbo5U3t3bfgLOetZSTbf6Tp_ip7/s320/IMG_6913.JPG" /></a></div><br /></span></span><br /><p></p><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-73095957961377611952020-07-03T22:44:00.000-07:002020-07-03T22:44:43.273-07:00Converting old Audio/Visual FilesHey, I know it's been AGES since I've posted anything, but I'm trying to blow the dust off my brain-bones and get back into things... I have a bunch of audio files saved by my little Sony Personal Digital Recorder that I can't listen to anymore because I don't have Windows 98 (or was it XP?) So.... I looked up any possibilities for converting the old DVF file formats into something more useable and... I found a possible solution!<br />
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<a href="http://www.wav-mp3.com/dvf/dvf-to-mp3.htm">http://www.wav-mp3.com/dvf/dvf-to-mp3.htm</a> is something to download onto my computer, but since it's so late at night, I can't wrap my mind around software language, so I'm not doing it right now. I'm going to try an online converter, first.... <a href="https://online-converters.com/converter/switch-audio-file-converter/">https://online-converters.com/converter/switch-audio-file-converter/</a><br />
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It's great to do research and gather treasures, but it sure is frustrating when a format goes obsolete... I'll let you know how this goes!<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-38336380557681787852016-02-24T18:26:00.000-08:002016-02-24T18:26:42.961-08:00Thank you Mr. Paglia!<span style="font-size: large;">Some understanding finally!!!</span><br />
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So if you've been around a while you've seen my confusion over some Los Angeles families. Any time you find a grave with multiple surnames represented, you just <u>have to</u> figure it out, because living with someone can be temporary, but to be buried with someone, well that's a lot of intimacy.<br />
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I'm speaking of <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2007/09/calvary-catholic-cemetery.html">Calvary Catholic Cemetery</a> , which set me off in an important direction. We have the names Fragassi, Nicassio and Paglia all together. My profound confusion is <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2013/02/unravelling-either-family-relations-or.html">best outlined in this post</a>, but I'll begin with how the problem began to be solved. First, I had to make darn sure of the people themselves, because there are a lot of name variants with our immigrants. Mary Fragassi was also called Angelina, and the headstone has her name spelled Marietta, which is much fancier. A man I don't know found this post and commented that Frank Fragassi was Mary's second (?) husband, hence the Nicassio name of her children, and married name combined.<br />
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I found this, which helped settle identity. Bonus that there's a photo.<br />
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I stumbled upon an Ancestry tree with some of these names in it and gave the user a shout. "<span style="background-color: white; color: #36322d; font-family: "source sans pro" , "helvetica neue" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23.2px;">Hello! I'm not certain if I've tried to contact you before, but I've done some visiting of virtual graves and found a family connection between ours... I was hoping you might have some additional knowledge or know someone?" </span><span style="background-color: white; color: #36322d; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23.2px;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I didn't know if it was even an active account, so I was surprised to get a reply within a day!</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #36322d;"><span style="line-height: 23.2px;">...My maternal side of the family is Nicassio. Actually went Connetto di Bari and found my grandmother's birth certificate. </span></span><span style="color: #36322d; line-height: 23.2px;">Besides that, my grandmother remarried in her sixties to a Frank Fragassi. </span><span style="color: #36322d; line-height: 23.2px;">After her death, he moved back to Bari where he died in his late 90's.</span></blockquote>
And so it began. Mary's maiden name was DiStaso, and that might explain the Distashe misspelled young men living with Frank in 1940, who he claimed as his sons. Perhaps there were cousins all over the place? I'm still figuring it out.<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-32055127674879174352016-02-05T20:34:00.000-08:002016-02-05T20:38:59.017-08:00MultislackingYeah, I said it. Multislacking. I'm not actively researching at the moment (slacking) because I'm trying to get a handle on the stuff I already have! I have done years of research and photo-taking and photo scanning and interviewing John Wayne style... shooting from the hip and barely taking names... Well, after a while, it's tiring being so insane. Trust me.<br />
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So I'm going back and retro-actively becoming a bad-booty registrar. I've got my groove from museum managers and archivists, and it feels good! If you have outta control family artifacts and information, drop me a line. This is one of my inspirations: <a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/Registration_Methods_for_the_Small_Museu.html?id=KjLlKl_G_V0C">Registration Methods for the Small Museum</a><br />
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So I feel like I'm multi-slacking because there is a lot to do at the same time. I want to feel good about my system, so I'm trying to do it all right. I'm not sitting and watching TV, I'm not going to get mani-pedi's, or doing much house work besides the necessities. I'm actually kind of focused on getting this done so that going FORWARD, it will take care of itself. If I had it all done and current, and then I engaged a new research avenue, I would simply log each source I went to - whether online or in person- and catalog every bit that I get from those sources.<br />
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So, in my book, if I went to see my cousin Anne at her home, I would talk with her, scan documents and photos, maybe even photograph some heirlooms. I would detail my SOURCE SHEET first, then catalog the notes or recording of our conversation, catalog each scanned image, and catalog each digital photo so that they all come up under the same source code.<br />
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If I got a box from my mom and didn't have the time to go through it all immediately, I'd give it a source code and keep it all together so that when I did get a chance to look through it, I'd have a built in place for it all. I don't even have to do it all at once. I can group family and individual photos first, but keeping them in the same batch, have it all together.<br />
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If I have a loan of items, I will know exactly where it all came from due to the catalog number itself. After the catalog number I can put whatever tickler words I want to.<br />
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201601 - Ancestry.com - Everything gleaned from the megasite this year<br />
201602 - Facebook.com - Family photos I've downloaded, notes from family postings<br />
201603 - Maggie McDonald - Photos and documents from the Krauser line in WA DC (no, mom, this is a fictitious person, I haven't struck any gold there yet)<br />
201604 - Phil Lowe - Interview and scanned documents and photos (again, fictitious)<br />
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201604.01 sound recording of conversation<br />
201604.02 death certificate- Josephine<br />
201604.03 birth certificate- Jacqueline<br />
201604.04 crocheted tablecloth by Josephine<br />
201604.05 detail of tablecloth<br />
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etc. etc.<br />
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What do you think?<br />
<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-66599231509561191062013-03-11T13:36:00.003-07:002013-03-11T13:38:28.349-07:00Another way for ANYONE to contribute to the WorldYes, anyone with a computer can do this. I'm talking about indexing and transcribing... <b><span style="font-size: large;">Seriously addictive</span></b> and one can't help feeling a kind of <span style="font-size: large;"><b>pride </b></span>in making vital and historical information available to the world for FREE. I've done about 100 records so far and I've just gotten started. I still feel a driving need to do my own homework, but <span style="font-size: large;">when I can't sleep and I don't have the brains or patience for coherent research, transcribing is great!</span><br />
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Just go to <a href="https://www.familysearch.org/volunteer/indexing">https://www.familysearch.org/volunteer/indexing</a> and take a test drive... you won't regret it!</span><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-41969552250690033722013-02-07T13:15:00.000-08:002013-03-11T13:45:24.874-07:00Unravelling: either family relations or my brainSo a while back I posted some updates from <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2007/09/calvary-catholic-cemetery.html">Calvary Cemetery</a>, some people who seemed to be related to the Fragassi's but I couldn't quite put my finger on how... We knew <b>we had Michael Fragassi</b> there because of his 1939 death certificate. While talking to the people at the cemetery, they mentioned they had a couple <b>graves belonging to Frank and Mary Fragassi</b>, which had me jumping in my seat because of the "Uncle Frank" character whom Rocky's kids got to know... sorta...<br />
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Mary Fragassi, also known as <b>Angelina Marietta Fragasi Nicassio</b> in the cemetery records, was born in Italy April 3, 1892- dod August 26, 1971 Social Security Death Index has spelling FRAGAS, The California Death Index has <b>FRAGASI, MARY</b> born 1892 04 03 FEMALE from <b>IT</b> died in LOS ANGELES 1971 08 26 ssn 570182702 age 79 record #3920645<br />
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This is more or less confirmed by the <b>1940 US census</b>, which <b>shows Frank Fragassi's wife to be Angelina</b>, also confirmed by the city directories of the time. Frank and Michael's mother's name is rumored to be Angelina, so that's a coincidence his wife's name is the same...<br />
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So when did Frank die, and where is Frank buried? Not with his wife... but there are two others that are in the Fragasi-owned digs... <b>Mike Nicassio and Mary Fragasi are in Grave 6</b>, L-378, Section R, <b>Charles Paglia is in Grave 5</b>. And who are these guys? Well, if you look at the snapshot above there are two young fellas Frank claims as his sons, but they have a different last name.<br />
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<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_JvzFN4Q2WJjsW5ZbSIJHKNqRLceuoWVpBSNJC93HZVO9Gj71SzJtrhnYflKECoGBh7Gns2ehMKLhdHo1wtwcGrKAt72o9OnxlhMNJEbz7abFdtlekWkvl4XT_q1KTF9T1rhx/s1600/destashio,+peter+births.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="64" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_JvzFN4Q2WJjsW5ZbSIJHKNqRLceuoWVpBSNJC93HZVO9Gj71SzJtrhnYflKECoGBh7Gns2ehMKLhdHo1wtwcGrKAt72o9OnxlhMNJEbz7abFdtlekWkvl4XT_q1KTF9T1rhx/s320/destashio,+peter+births.JPG" width="320" /></a>Ok... How about the 1922ish birth? Well we have a possible match... Either Peter Destaso born May 30, 1920 to a Russo... or Peter Distashio born May 23 of 1922 to a Gasparda... I wonder what Angelina's maiden name was?... Or maybe these were kids he'd adopted.<br />
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So then I look for<b> Charles Paglia</b>, because he's next to Mary Fragasi... Charles was born 17 April 1911 in California, according to the California Death Index... he died 13 Feb 1983 in Los Angeles, age 71.<br />
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Mike Nicassio died in 1972 at the age of 43. He's also next to Mary. He was born Nov 27, 1928 but doggone it if the CADI does not have a mother's maiden name... I ran that birth date in the CABI with Los Angeles and start of first name MI... <i>nuttin</i>... ran again without the MI... <i>meh</i>... I don't think so, even with a lot of results...<br />
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Took off the date except the year and month and BAM!<br />
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Well THAT one is good! Crimany sakes... I'm going to have to come back to this, my head's spinning...<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-87176359775638175752012-05-29T21:43:00.002-07:002013-02-07T13:16:41.690-08:00Because "They" said so<div class="tr_bq">
I've become strongly aware that our Stewart lines need redefining. Ever since we started tracing these lines 30 years ago, we have found odd dates and relationships and widely varied places of origin. It's disturbing. I wanted to gain a membership with the DAR for my mother's sake, for her enjoyment, and her chief lines of ancestry have more than one Patriot. I also want to instill that pride and patriotism in my young son, who is thirsty for identity.<br />
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Back in 2010 I attached something to my tree in Ancestry.com that looked informative. It was someone else's research summary on a William Stewart discrepancy. I may have read it, but I haven't thought much about it until recently. (remember, it was others' info that caused the mess)</div>
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So recently I re-read the very well researched blurb, coming away with the feeling at first that <b>perhaps everything we had thought we knew was bunk... ..</b><br />
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William Stewart Born: 1755, Sussex, Delaware
10 Sep 1850, Russell County, Virginia</blockquote>
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When William Stewart and his wife were in their 60s, they had an agreement with their daughter, Judith, and husband, Nimrod Taylor to take care of them in their old age. Prior to 1840 William Stewart had made an agreement with his son-in-law, Nimrod Taylor, Jr., by which Nimrod would have use of William's land, in return for which Nimrod would take care of William and Jemima's needs. This was a very common arrangement for elderly parents at the time. However, things did not work out as planned. </blockquote>
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At their advanced ages William Stewart brought suit in court 13 April 1843 against their son-in-law. The Circuit Superior Court of law and Chancery ruled for eighty year old William in his complaint that Nimrod was enjoying the benefits of the land in controversy, but, in violation of his contract to make ample provision for the complainants, had instead driven off his very aged and infirm father- and mother-in-law on 29 May 1841 without making any provision for their support . It was ruled that "because of mutual ill feeling it would be cruel and unreasonable to require the elderly Stewarts to return to Nimrod's home, and that Nimrod Taylor, Jr., should pay $60 annually during the Stewarts' life and $30 to the survivor." </blockquote>
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In 1850, Nimrod Taylor age 57 and Judith Stewart Taylor age 51 are living alone in Scott County, Virginia. William is no longer with them.
Also in 1850 on the Census we now find William (who is 96 years of age) now living with his daughter, Nancy and her husband John Hale as listed below. </blockquote>
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1850 United States Federal Census about William Stewart .... Name: William Stewart Age: 94 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1756 Birth Place: South Carolina Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): Western District, Scott, Virginia John Hale age 36 b. 1814) Nancy age 36 TN (Stewart b. 1814) William Stewart age 96 b. Tennessee William is living with his daughter and her husband, John Hale. </blockquote>
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He died in September after the Census was taken.
Parents: John Albertus Stewart and Ann Robinson
Married about 1786, Russel County, Virginia
Jemima Carter born about 1767, Virginia. Died before 1850 in Scott County, Virginia.
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Children: (12)
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<li>James Stewart b. 28 feb 1790, Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>William Stewart b. 10 Aug 1791 Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>Elizabeth Stewart b. 1794 Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>Judith Stewart b. 1799 Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>Joseph Stewart b.1800 Russel County, Virginia</li>
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<li>Ann Stewart b. Abt. 1806 Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>David Stewart b. 1804 Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>Jemima Stewart b. 1805 Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>Mary Polly Stewart b. 1808 Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>Elijah Stewart b. 1810 Russel County, Virginia </li>
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<li>Nancy Stewart b. 1814 Russel County, Virginia** </li>
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<li>Lucy Stewart b. 15 May 1804 Russel County, Virginia</li>
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The father of William seems to be John Albertus b. 1720; d. 14 Mar 1773. Once I found the connection to his father's tree on the Website "Myhre Osborn Tucker Beuadette", by Colleen Osborn Myhre; it fell into place on my tree.
<i><b>This William Stewart was not the son of John J. Stewart and a Susannah Fulkerson-Bledsoe wife. </b></i></blockquote>
<b>SO SHE SAYS...
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John J. Stewart, son of Samuel Stewart who married "Elizabeth "Lydia" Harrison" dtr of Isaiah Harrison and Elizabeth Wright married Hannah Boone, dtr of Squire Boone and sister to Daniel Boone as recorded in the Boone Manuscript and in the Books. This connection is confirmed by the Boone manuscript and by the son of Hannah Boone and her second husband, Richard Pennington. He was questioned by Lyman C. Draper of the Draper manuscript and wrote a letter confirming the marriages of his mother.
"Lydia" was used by Elizabeth as her name, probably because her mother was Elizabeth Wright. We know she was named Elizabeth at birth because it is in the Church Records in the manuscript, "Settlers by the Long Grey Trail". See the family page of her father, Isaiah Harrison. She used the name "Lydia" exclusively in her Will and in the land records. This was not at all unusual for the times. Nicknames became permanent names many times. They were considered legal names when documents were signed in that manner.</blockquote>
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(John J. Stewart had no sons only 4 daughters with Hannah Boone. This is the son of Samuel Stewart and Elizabeth "Lydia" Harrison, dtr of Isaiah Harrison and Elizabeth Wright.) </blockquote>
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If you follow the records, land, marriage, and all the connections to Samuel Stewart documented in "Settlers by the Long Grey Trail", plus the Wills of the parents of John J. Stewart, you can see the connections to the Stewarts, Cravens, Harrisons. They married each other. <b>The connections are unmistakable. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why so many people insist it is otherwise.</b> This is a wonderful fun genealogy; connecting to the Boone family, the Harrison family the Cravens family, the Wright family and the family of Abraham Lincoln. Try it. </blockquote>
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IResearch; Geneva Greer White, "Geneva's Tree".
Also listed as 1763, Surry Co, NC (Not sure which birth date is correct; but if he was in the Revolutionary War, he probably was born as listed in 1755.) .
<b>Military. Rev War - Kings Mountain
Ancestry of William Stewart 1755,</b>
Dr. John Stewart 1660 and Elizabeth Albertus John Stewart 1694 and Mary John Albertus Abt. 1720 and Ann Robinson Ancestry of William Stewart 1755 m. Jemima Carter
Greer Genealogy from John J. Stewart Dr. John Stewart 1660 David Stewart 1680 Samuel Stewart 1700 2 sons 1. David Stewart 1728 to the Greer genealogy to Greer Genealogy 2. John J. Stewart 1744 to the Boone genealogy</blockquote>
<b>Sounds pretty darn cut and dried, doesn't it?
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<b>I later emailed a lady I found through the Find-A-Grave community, because she had submitted graves for many ancestors of mine. I was gobsmacked at her reply when I told her about this Geneva White and her authoritative information...</b><br />
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I see Geneva White is still out there trying to confuse people. I had some run-ins with her some years ago and while I can't dispute any of her findings on the Boone family - as there are no Boone's in my tree to trace - she is certainly wrong about William Stewart's father.</blockquote>
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I'm pretty certain that William's father is named John Stewart and my Mom and I believe his mother is Susanna Fulkerson. Have you applied for William's Revolutionary War pension file? I asked this of Geneva and she just ignored me. <b>I have a copy of it, and it clearly states that he joined the service with his brother David and half-brother Loving Bledsoe.</b> When my Mom and I received the pension file (in the late 1980's) and read that William had a half brother, it was news to us. We began to do some research into Loving Bledsoe, since that would hopefully reveal the name of William's mother. </blockquote>
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But first, John Stewart.<b> There is a very old manuscript of church minutes from the Stony Creek Primitive Baptist Church, which is the church that William, Jemima and many other of our Stewarts and Carters were members. </b>They are all over the records and were members in good standing. We are fortunate that the manuscript exists, as it lists John as a member and includes his baptism date. I am pretty sure that this John Stewart is William's father, as William had neither a son nor a brother by that name, so who else could it be but a father or uncle? (I have a transcribed copy of the church minutes, which date from 1801-1814) </blockquote>
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While researching Bledsoes, we discovered that a young woman named Susanna Fulkerson had married a widower named Bledsoe who much older than herself - and that she had a son named Loving Bledsoe. So we started poking around with the Fulkersons and discovered that Susanna's father Frederick had deeded land to her, and it is on that same tract of land that we find a man named John Stewart in the tax rolls a few years later. From this Mom and I drew the conclusion that <b>if a man named John Stewart was living on the land belonging to a woman whose widowed name was Bledsoe, and if William and David went into the service with a half brother named Loving Bledsoe, it would make sense that these are William's parents.</b></blockquote>
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Geneva White appears to be tracing a different John Stewart, but she doesn't seem to care how much havoc she wreaks in the meantime. She keeps beating the drum that Susanna Fulkerson never existed. Perhaps she doesn't exist because Ms. White hasn't looked - or prefers not to see. Apparently a little knowledge is a dangerous thing!</blockquote>
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By the way, I also have a copy of the Sarah Finch Maiden Rollins book which traces the Stewart and Carter lines, among others. I do not know whether or not her research is completely correct or not, but everything that Mom and I have traced on our Stewart line jives perfectly with Mrs. Rollins' book. Mom and I have gone back no further than John and Susannah, but it seems as though Geneva White has a problem with Mrs. Rollins' claim that (our) John Stewart is the son of Samuel Stewart who married Lydia Harrison. Honestly I haven't gone back far enough to figure out who John Stewart's parents are, but I feel certain that the name of William's father is John Stewart - it's right there in the church minutes.<br />
I hope this helps. If you'd like to see documentation let me know. </blockquote>
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<span style="font-size: large;">So my point in pointing this out is that I <i>was </i>very discouraged simply because someone authoritative said it was so...</span> I knew that research in history constantly calls for proof, and I wanted to see some documentation myself. I was going to find every thing cited by both women and draw my own conclusions.<br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Don't ever be put off because someone else says something contrary to what you thought. Always ask questions, always be polite, and always cite your sources...</span><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-81699273706172505152012-04-02T15:22:00.001-07:002012-04-02T15:22:33.572-07:00Welcome - 1940 CensusThat's right! BANG baby! The 1940 census is finally here. You can see it on the national archives now, or pay to see it on Ancestry, or enjoy it for free pretty soon on FamilySearch. Volunteers are scratchin their trigger fingers to do indexing of all the information available... I know I am...<br />
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<a href="http://1940census.archives.gov/#.T3omFlb7Plg.blogger">Welcome - 1940 Census</a><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-70391770936456774552011-12-30T10:46:00.000-08:002013-03-11T13:43:55.852-07:00The importance of a good chairYesterday I sat at my dining room table with the laptop to my side, my big binder of family group sheets in front of me, and various notebooks and files around me... I was going through every detail already written and putting to pencil and paper where I found all such tidbits... When I got to their portion, I ended up chasing my husband's grandparents as best I could, trying to nail down a solid date for something. You wouldn't think a deceased generation not so far removed would be so tricky... I called a half dozen cemeteries with the information I have. I found one possible lead so far for Cecelia Gutierrez-Avila-Castro but the death date is different than I thought it would be. Did she die in 1973 or 1977? And her first husband, the father of my husband's mother and her siblings, did he legally go by Refugio and by Nabor to his family and friends?<br />
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This paper chase has begun to remind me of the one I have with my Irish immigrant family, the Howard's and Waters. The censuses had different ages each time so that a birth date could not be concluded. I couldn't get a death date besides "spring of 1924" because she went by Ellen Mary and not Mary Ellen. WHAT?! Why didn't I think of that before? So now I finally have cemetery records of those two, my second great grandparents, and a death certificate. It still doesn't verify for real when and where they were born, because the family left behind provided that information, but at least it's something. This is the same kind of problem I'm having with the immigrants on my husband's side, from Mexico and perhaps even from Italy.<br />
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I had to get up several times to do things (rescue some hapless object from the jaws of the family dog, make lunch, do dishes, help the husband) but sitting down again I began to realize my seat wasn't so happy. By the time we went to Goodwill to look at a glass table my husband had found that was perfect for our big flat TV and it's personal affects, my whole leg was yelling at me from upper mid-calf through my hammy gluteus-maximus. The dining room chairs, while graceful in appearance, are an affront to the backside with long periods of use. It makes me think of certain kinds of restaurants that are designed to move people rather than beckon them to stay. My dining room does not like loitering, and my right leg was the proof.<br />
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Then another old saying drifted through my head, <b>"The mind can only absorb what the seat can endure."</b><br />
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Man, ain't that the truth.<br />
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So now, Friday, my husband is at work, my son is off playing with friends, and I have two rooms to rearrange and a whole lot of stuff to move, organize and store. One piece of furniture causes such a huge ripple effect. The parrot's cage is finally moving out of the living room so she won't be screaming at all our visitors and we can watch TV in peace; She, too, will be able to go to sleep at the proper birdy-bed time and perhaps be less cranky for it. I get to do it all by myself, but I had to write about this first, because <b>sometimes, no matter how passionate I feel about recording stories and facts and images of loved ones gone before, I have to get other things done first.</b> I have to get the house in order so the husband is happy, cause if he's happy I can work on other matters of organization, if that is done<b> I can make a nook for myself to really knuckle down and focus on what I love- THIS- I can only do so much from an uncomfortable chair.</b><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-64133964807451035442011-09-15T10:38:00.000-07:002011-09-15T11:24:12.661-07:00Scrubbin'Well I don't know about y'all, but my chief excuse this last year for not moving forward much with genealogy was "<i>too much information loitering my basement and computer</i>". I needed to get a handle on what was in my Legacy program file (dumped out of Ancestry) and compare it to all that I have. <b>I need to scrub all my files</b>, as it were... and finally this week, I have begun to do just that.<div><br /></div><div>It has Begun.</div><div><br /></div><div>It's going to be like comedy, I'm sure. I do know, from professional experience, that I just have to take it on one task at a time and try to be smart about it. I know there are things I have that I have not input yet, or have not cited my sources. I need to meticulously log my sources, my family group sheets, and my pedigrees. </div><div><br /></div><div>The system I started before sucks and I have decided to make a log in Excel based on all the individuals' names and info (dumped from Legacy in a csv file), then track parents and spouses and charts on the same line. I file them in a 4" rough-and-tough binder with alphabetical tabs now. Anyone with the last name beginning with "A", regardless of how far removed from my direct ancestors, will be found in the "A" tab. The numbers run consecutively, but heedless of traditional alphabetical order beyond the "A". Numbers are assigned as the charts are made. No bias, no fuss... If I make a bunch of new charts, I will number the stack, then put them in the log, then file in the binder. Letter "W" may have charts 1, 2, 3, 4, 17, 28, 29, 30, 52 etc.</div><div><br /></div><div>anyway... it's fun.</div><div><br /></div><div>And I still need to finish my photo and document log, too. They will be closely guarded.</div><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-690968209980618382011-06-21T10:15:00.001-07:002011-08-26T15:51:49.680-07:00The Tides of GenealogyThe genealogy bug ebbs and wanes. The excitement of actually finding those you are looking for, sucks you in until the inevitable brick wall stands in your path and frustrates you to no end.
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<br />For those who have not tried genealogy or are not interested, it is hard for them to imagine how excited a person can get just by finding a known family member on a census which puts you hot on the trail of others. The excitement rises when you find another ancestor that you had been looking for. Alas, the trails often grow cold or lead to dead ends. There often seems to be no resolution, no resource, nothing that leads to the one you're searching for. This is where we get bored with it all, annoyed, and just plain tired of learning that the records you need, were destroyed.
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<br /><em>Just like the tides of the ocean, genealogy research ebbs and wanes.</em> You'll get your awesome surf days with big waves and beautiful skies and you'll get those days where the ocean seems as calm as a pond and the clouds block the sun.
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<br />All I can say is to not give up. New records are added to databases every day. New people might have information to give you. Focus on another ancestor if the one you had been searching for, proves elusive. Sometimes, on a sunny day with big waves, that other ancestor will lead you right to the one you were searching for all along and the bug will bite you once again.
<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>Matafleurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02214244792239373848noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-82889090170176499042011-02-16T09:46:00.000-08:002011-02-16T10:21:50.051-08:00Kooky families and Good FoodI stumbled across this blog, <a href="http://www.auntpeaches.com/2010/09/big-alices-apple-kuchen.html">Aunt Peaches</a>, and smiled as I read about the far reaching story around a family tradition recipe for Apple Kuchen. What a great tribute to a kooky family.<br /><br />I think a lot of us have stories <span style="font-style: italic;">like </span>this that we just don't realize we have.<br /><blockquote>For a woman who could not hear and rarely spoke, Big Alice could communicate across an ocean with her facial expressions. In fact, it was not until Herbert’s mention in the parking lot that day that I realized she was deaf. In my mind, we had spoken dozens of times. Heck, we were pals! She played in my blanket fort. I fetched her unfiltered cigarettes from the patio. She saw me hide brussel sprouts into my napkin and didn’t tattle. I didn’t say anything when I saw her taking a swig off a wine bottle in the kitchen just before she took it out to the table. Herbert’s news that she was deaf came as shock. In vain I searched my memory for the sound of her voice.<br /><br />Isn’t it strange how the very young and the very old have no problem communicating without words?<br /><br />Her nickname, Big Alice, was misleading. The woman weighed as much as a wet hamster. The name came only after she had a daughter, dubbed Little Alice, whose daughter then became known as Tiny Alice. As fate would have it, Tiny Alice recently had a baby girl named Emma, which is a lovely name, but I was really looking forward to one day adding an entry to my address book under the name Infinitesimal Alice.</blockquote><br />I'll be coming back to this blog. And yes, Peaches, people are like cook books.<br /><br />My sister years ago took upon her and (her husband) the task of making a Family Cook Book, "Hot Rod Recipes", which went way out of the box. I still refer to it; some good food, good stories, good graphic art, and a great way to remember people who've gone and shuffled off this molten core.<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-19147833991163181452010-07-10T11:52:00.000-07:002010-07-10T12:58:12.830-07:00Mount Olivet Cemetery DCOut on the East coast, Mount Olivet Cemetery is on 1300 Bladensburg Road, N.E., Washington, District of Columbia, USA 20002<br />Phone: (202) 399-3000<br /><br />Here, my 2nd great grandmother's brother is buried, and may hold the key to finding the rest of the Krausers. We're waiting to see if we can get a photo submitted of his grave and any further information about the family. I did find a map of the grounds at www.FindAGrave.com<br /><br />submitted requests for George's brother, Joseph, and parents, Joseph and Lydia. Also enquired about grandmother, Mary Teresa (Rosina) Krauser.<br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">GEORGE EDWARD KRAUSER</span><br />Born 1882 (or thereabouts) Died 24 October, 1942<br />Section 58 lot 976<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEierYFEmwu0K0rjWJzqdr5ya-v3eRrudo5Vlr-zH7gMNaZjsk7aSAnDD9eqLY-W9DeusPKBPsw8hMUf39R2SapOLxb06Au8Mt-_6irbFz51Ai79h365-zwJZArofYDtXyibX4gP/s1600/OLIVET+DC.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 243px; height: 400px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEierYFEmwu0K0rjWJzqdr5ya-v3eRrudo5Vlr-zH7gMNaZjsk7aSAnDD9eqLY-W9DeusPKBPsw8hMUf39R2SapOLxb06Au8Mt-_6irbFz51Ai79h365-zwJZArofYDtXyibX4gP/s400/OLIVET+DC.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5492358621522017474" border="0" /></a><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-68528366114142388942010-05-07T08:56:00.000-07:002013-03-15T15:15:50.525-07:00Howard Family part twoThis is continued from the <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2010/05/howard-family-descrepancies.html">HOWARD FAMILY DISCREPANCIES</a><br />
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Alrighty then... I had all these eloquent ideas of how to write floating around yesterday, as I was walking on sunshine... <span style="font-weight: bold;">I'm still happy about this, but my mind is zinging wanting to discover NOW, not just sit and write about the process.</span> I know they're not going anywhere, they've been buried almost a hundred years, so I <span style="font-style: italic;">should </span>be able to do this.<br />
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When I got off the BART, the first thing I did was walk straight to the Department of Public Health and Vital Statistics. It's so grand that all these things are right there within walking distance of the station. I stood in line (should have filled out my forms then) with everyone else, although <span style="font-style: italic;">there was a sign or two that said <span style="font-weight: bold;">"Genealogists and Government Agencies must see cashier for service"</span>, which was encouraging.</span> I don't remember seeing that before.<br />
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Now I should have finished writing this back in May, but now it's January and the details have deteriorated further. The guy at the window was nice <span style="font-style: italic;">and </span>helpful. <span style="font-weight: bold;">I gave him the sheet I made up with all the detective hints on it as well as the prescribed forms for ordering death certificates. </span>Then I had to wait. I was starving, so I went to a restaraunt around the corner and waited for a table until I was too anxious to eat and left again. I don't remember if I ever ate in the city. When I went back I was only partially disappointed, and here's why.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">After all these years, the death record has not listed as </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Mary Ellen</span><span style="font-weight: bold;"> Howard, but Ellen Mary!</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">I got the death certificate for Ellen that day because everything else matched up.</span> I didn't have the correct dates for Thomas Howard until after I spoke with someone at the cemetery. Now, with a solid date and calling her Ellen, they found them both. I could get his death certificate right now. I could go to the cemetery plot right now, and though I'm sure their names aren't in stone, at least I'd know where the blazes their bones are! That's something!</blockquote>
<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-73606198677363009582010-05-06T08:34:00.000-07:002013-03-15T15:16:21.607-07:00Howard Family DescrepanciesRelying on family memory sometimes can be a detriment. Thomas Howard and Mary Waters were indeed married, were indeed both from Ireland, and did live, raise a family, work, and die in San Francisco. According to family record, typed out in 1952, they are supposed to be buried in the plot of Thomas' former employer, the Cooper's, at Cypress Lawn. The cemetery has no record of them, with Coopers or otherwise. None of their information matches perfectly into any vital record index, and even the census information seems dodgey. With a list of important criteria and all the little errors, hopefully today I can at last resolve some of this.<br />
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First, <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2006/07/howard-children.html">what we think we know</a>.<br />
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Mary Howard (Maiden name Mary Ellen Waters) born in Sligo, Ireland. Died at age 80. had broken her hip, pneumonia resulted. Buried in Cooper plot at Cypress Lawn in spring of 1924 about April.</blockquote>
This would make her born in 1844.<br />
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Thomas Howard died at 60 years. Native of Limerick, Ireland. Burried Jan. 25th 1918 Grave belonging to Cooper family, both buried in same plot.</blockquote>
This would make him born in 1858, and about 14 years younger than his wife.<br />
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1880 census has Thomas, age 28, born 1852, Mary, age 37, born 1843.<br />
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1900 census has Thomas, age 49, born 1854, Mary, age 53, born 1846. (January and October)<br />
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1910 census has Thomas, age 55, born 1855, Mary, age 65, born 1845.<br />
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Also in 1900 it says they were married 33 years (m. 1867, oldest living child born about 1874). In 1910, it says married 31 years! Married in 1879, after several children were born? Not in THAT Catholic family! It's all whacked. I'm sure the death certificates, assuming I can find them, will have some perpetuated whackadoo information, but at least there will be ONE thing settled, when they did, in fact, die, and where their remains were released. That's two things.<br />
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So... off I go... wish me luck!<br />
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<a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2010/05/howard-family-part-two.html">(HERE'S PART TWO!)</a><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-64030048477643450642010-03-26T07:53:00.000-07:002010-03-26T09:21:14.222-07:00Full Circle with the Browns and PerrysYou may recall my elation when I found Jim and Niz Brown, he being the nephew of my great grandmother Gertrude V. Brown, and cousin of my grandmother, Jeanette Stewart. Jim has many family photos and had many connections, but knowledge of what became of Jeanette's half-brother George Perry and his children was limited. He hadn't talked to the boys in a long time. I had tried to find them, the sons of George and Nancy, but to no avail.<br /><br />Until a few days ago... a surreal message came up in Ancestry. The eldest son of George had found US through our common ancestors, and he was from another mother! I'm still kind of goofy about this. At first I thought I had been mistaken, forgetting that sometimes people have more than one family. (HA!) But after talking with him and seeing some of his puzzle pieces, it all makes more sense now. <span style="font-weight: bold;">He </span>was the "oldest son" who picked up Dad's remains and went on one last car trip to release him to the US Navy for scattering at sea off the coast of Pensacola, Florida. Very cool.<br /><br />So we now know Gertrude's firstborn has the name<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-88111568047142838202010-02-02T14:48:00.001-08:002010-02-02T15:12:36.302-08:00Finding and losing family membersLast spring, I managed to track down Patricia O'Reilly (1st cousin of my father, daughter of Blanche DeMarc-O'Reilly-Pastorino and Joseph Albert O'Reilly). From Blanche's obit, I found her step-sister's name and via internet searches, I managed to get her phone number. The step-sister gave me her last known address and phone number which didn't get me far.<br /><br />My dad had a brilliant idea that an old friend of his, had ties to Redding, CA where Patricia's was last noted as residing. I tracked my dad's friend who, after doing some catch up, decided to go to the last known address for Patricia and failing in finding her, would talk to neighbors.<br /><br />Well, he didn't find Pat, but found a talkative neighbor who agreed to help. Apparently Pat had a stroke several years back and was in a nursing home. She was a drinker who had few friends, severed family ties, and was pretty much a loner. She kept money hidden in her freezer and the neighbor told us that she wasn't trusting of anyone, feeling that they were out to get her money.<br /><br />The very sweet neighbor told us the nursing home Pat was at and agreed to facilitate a visit to her. Off dad and I went to Redding for a dual purposes. One, to find Pat and two, to visit with dad's old friend.<br /><br />Pat's old neighbor was little old lady and the sweetest thing. Chatty, lonely, and helpful. We went to pick her up and drove over to the nursing home. We brought flowers for Pat, pink roses because that's what her old neighbor told us she had loved. Apparently Pat used to tend to her rose bushes with love and care and was a cat lover. We also brought old photos of the family so that we could prove who we were and new photos of the family she never met.<br /><br />With the kindly help of a CNA on duty, we found Pat eating lunch in the cafeteria . She seemed pleased to have visitors and the flowers. The saddest part of all, Pat could only say, 'Yes.' She couldn't speak other than that, but the cadence in which she said the word somewhat expressed how she felt. We left to let her finish her meal while the CNA led us back to her room.<br /><br />My dad was devastated. He has spent such a long time without contact with anyone other than his father as far as the O'Reilly clan goes, that I know he was holding out hope for more. So was I to tell the truth. The sadness we both felt was evident and I choked back tears on the way to her room.<br /><br />There was little in the way of personal effects in Pat's room. Some DVD's, a small TV, and one photo album with pictures of Pat as a youth where she was obviously modeling. The pictures included one of her mother and some other people we didn't know.<br /><br />There were some cards and letters, but we didn't get much chance to look at them as Pat was soon wheeled in. By now, you could tell that she wasn't pleased we were there. I believe she figured out that we were family and was quite insistent that we leave. She was waving us off, turned her back to us and was shaking her head 'no.'<br /><br />So, family found and family lost. I'm not quite ready to give up on Pat, but I'm lost as how to go about connecting with her. I'm still trying to get over her inability to speak and the way we were dismissed. I guess it hit me harder than I thought. One thing is for sure, I need to do whatever I'm going to do before she's really gone.<br /><br />~SIGH~<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>Matafleurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02214244792239373848noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-14635750324175171042010-02-02T14:30:00.000-08:002010-02-02T14:42:24.800-08:00Name changesHonestly, I should post more often. A resolution to a lost password may help :)<br />So, I resolved the Sognara-Wilson last name issue. Kind of. Wincenzo Sognara, at some point, changed his name to John Vincent Wilson(b 1846 d 1916). As a reminder, John Vincent Wilson was Gazella Wilson-Winkler-Watson's father. Gazella was my g-grandmother. Anyway, some documents sent by cousin Marsha included his Certificate of Naturalization.<br /><br />I have no idea when or why he changed his name, but I did come across a newspaper announcement of divorces granted and it's possible that Mr. Sognara changed his name as a result of the divorce. If that was him and his ex-wife, the reason cited was cruelty or something along those lines. Dun, dun, dun...the plot thickens. I'm such a hopeless mess that I can't find the article now.<br /><br />Little tidbits that show up out of no where, make me wonder who else has documents that could solve all the riddles that leave us banging our heads on our desks.<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>Matafleurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02214244792239373848noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-45803855681318068012010-02-02T02:03:00.000-08:002010-02-08T13:14:47.952-08:00FlorrieShe has her "birthdate" profile already, but this morning I woke up from a dream and couldn't get back to sleep right away. I kept thinking about <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2007/03/florence-winkler.html">Florrie Winkler</a>, daughter of Henry and Caroline. I never knew her last husband's name, and thus never knew her death date. I knew she lived in SF and Sonoma county... She is the only child of theirs I didn't have a death date for.<br /><br />anyway<br /><br />I did a wild search in the California Vitals (which I thought I did before) pulling all F*or* in case she spelled it different, born in February of 1883... and through process of elimination (no Winkler maiden names listed, so it had to be a blank, would have been born in CA) I found one in Marin<br /><br />DIPERNO, FLORENCE H born 1883 / 2 / 21 FEMALE born in CA died in MARIN 1974 / 6 /4<br /><br />and finding her in the SSDI again makes perfect sense she died in Fairfax, CA, the same town her daughter lived in. She probably came to stay with her daughter as age began to grip her. She was 91 when she passed. Wow... now to find some Obit's...<br /><br />(I thought maybe she would be buried at Mt. Tam, where her daughter is, but she isn't)<br /><br />Then of course 1920 and 1930 censuses she shows up with Joe Diperno, with her daughter assuming his name, so she may have remarried not long after Nicholas' death. They lived in Santa Rosa, then in Glen Ellen, out in the country just North of Sonoma and West of Napa. The census images did not have the addresses on them, harumph!, but I can look them up in city directories later on. There must have been some discarded correspondence between these cousins, they stayed so close... <span style="font-style: italic;">I can't stand the thought of relations living so close in proximity and being so distant.</span><div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-75856374784102435412010-01-29T10:49:00.000-08:002010-01-29T14:06:10.292-08:00Cindles and StewartsWell it's about blinkin' time I found something new. This morning I was just going through my 'basic' family tree on Ancestry, the stuff I pretty much know by heart, and attaching actual documents to the people. Well I got back into the Stewarts and noticed a bunch of other family trees that overlapped mine... So the first revelation, and backed up by censuses, was our Mary Alice Cindle (she preferred Alice) whose parents are (ta-daaa!) Robert Cindle and Nancy Elisabeth Nicholas.<br /><br />I'm still going back from there and to the sides, but it's so refreshing to find another previously unknown generation and siblings! I've spent a lot of chore time on this... have to get back to reality now... Till soon!<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-64730218047935054952009-12-27T21:04:00.001-08:002009-12-27T21:06:08.455-08:00Slacking?yes, you might say as much.<br /><br />I have some new information that I just haven't processed and posted yet. I'm also looking for a paying job. This kind of work I get excited about, but it doesn't pay the bills...<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-5445022970244263222009-07-27T17:18:00.000-07:002009-07-27T17:34:43.646-07:00Rohrbachs FOUNDHoly Cannoli! I finally started looking into the <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2008/01/speaking-to-past.html">1870 census lead</a>, that I've had for about a year. Don't know why I was so skeptical. I looked up the "alleged brothers" of my 2nd great grandmother, and found someone ELSE who's been researching them through Ancestry. Hoping the contact link was still fresh I sent them a message and waited... only a couple days, thank goodness! He confirmed we are indeed related if <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2006/12/caroline-ann-rohrbach.html">my grandmother married a Winkler</a> and moved to California.<br /><br />So this morning I was talking to the guy, because he gave me his phone number instead of email (the ancestry site was giving him trouble) and he not only knows what village or town Caroline's father came from, but he's got documentation and has personally been there more than once. "If you could ever imagine a town in Germany you'd like to be from, that would be it." he said. He also has baptismal records in Latin, going back into the 1600's....<br /><br />Needless to say, I'm floored.<br /><br />Caroline's father, Philip, was a piano forte maker. Henry Winkler probably worked for him. It will be interesting to see how these little bits do or don't unravel. He said Philip's will said something about trying to track down Caroline. And the mother was not Martha... We talked about the family graves in Brooklyn, and other uncles... Well... I don't want to give a bunch of misinformation in my rush of excitement, it will be coming to me in bits and pieces, but it will come. I am so full of gratitude that I was led to this cousin, and that I could provide his missing links as well. No accidents...<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-80582677421933520832009-07-25T16:30:00.000-07:002015-12-31T21:36:57.609-08:00Untitled Poem 4<div style="text-align: center;">
<span style="font-size: 180%; font-style: italic;"><span style="font-family: georgia;">Striding o'er the heathered hills</span></span><span style="font-size: 180%;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 180%; font-style: italic;"><span style="font-family: georgia;">we visit those who're marked by cairns,</span></span><span style="font-size: 180%;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 180%; font-style: italic;"><span style="font-family: georgia;">converse by fire and window sills</span></span><span style="font-size: 180%;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 180%; font-style: italic;"><span style="font-family: georgia;">with widows, crofters, and wee bairns..</span></span><span style="font-size: 180%;"><br /></span></div>
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a little something I started writing just now...<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-4211639208270394692009-05-02T12:10:00.000-07:002013-03-20T11:31:38.834-07:00Sharing the JoyAnother part of the joy of family history is getting <span style="font-style: italic;">someone else</span> excited about sharing! My friend just recently started HIS own kind of Familyology blog, called <a href="http://www.hin-und-zuruck.blogspot.com/">Hin und Zuruck</a> (There and Back). Not easy to stumble upon, not like this one...<br />
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Things/ Places we have in common: Alsace-Lorraine; Baden, Germany; Rohrbach as a name and place... we're trying to prove that we're distantly related, or to disprove it. Take a look at his site!<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35928602.post-9302969501331375332009-03-20T21:36:00.000-07:002009-04-25T14:03:57.634-07:00Another stamp...SO curiosity is getting the better of me, and I went ahead and ordered two marriage certificates. I think I mentioned finding marriage records on <a href="http://www.blogger.com/www.vitalsearch-ca.com">Vitalsearch</a> for Frances Lambert, first her marriage to Michele Fragassi in 1916, and then what <span style="font-style: italic;">may be</span> a second marriage in 1939... We'd like to confirm if this is a coincidence or our same Frances. It would sure be nice to find out when and where she died, too. That will hopefully come soon.<br /><br />And my apologies for not posting much recently. I can't do this at work (literally, it's blocked) and my time at home is not what it once was... I am working on really cleaning up my family files and then will search for a web host with a lot of storage space.<br /><br />Till next time...<br /><br />CHECK THE UPDATE AT THE <a href="http://familyology.blogspot.com/2008/12/la-fragassi-marriages.html">LA FRAGASSI MARRIAGES</a> POST<div class="blogger-post-footer">If you want help with your own Familyology, take a look at <a href="www.VVFA.blogspot.com">Vintage Voices Family Archiving.</a></div>The Familyologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11745649737674323462noreply@blogger.com1